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Just to be clear, there's a massive difference between balance changes intended to foster a 50/50 global winrate and a shuffle algorithm which seeks to optimize and balance the likelihood of a 50/50 chance to win for both teams in a single round, limited to a specific server population at a specific point in time.

In regards to the other current threads, shuffle is the principal topic of concern.

@Handschuh The recent updates (could be the ns2 update or the ns2+ update) broke some stuff in ns2+. I am making a list on ns2+'s github. If you have anything to add you can comment there, or you can tell me here or on discord or on steam. thanks

@X_Illuminati I think this is the inteded GitHub link https://github.com/BeigeAlert/GUISystemExample315

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Unlikely, as the previously faithful NS2 players had bought Shadow skin for 75$

This line of thinking has always gotten under my skin. I realize you may not have meant it to sound this way, but it's definitely coming off like that.
I know you know this history, but I am just going to recall it for accuracy's sake and for others:

People had been asking for a way to donate to UWE for multiple years in a row (esp. after constellation was discontinued), even before launch or for free large content updates post launch (Gorgeous) that were costing the company a lot of money when not seeing a return.
So after spending 55k+ on another large content update, they created this elaborate multi tiered donation system where you could donate what you wanted.
UWE publicly said in forum posts as well as blogs, and even on the donation page itself that "AS A THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT" and help in recovering *some* of the costs of the multiple years of post launch free content, you would be given perks like badges or skins per each level.

They didn't just want to open a paypal donation page and leave it at that.
They didn't say "Hey this skin is $35, and this one is $75" on an online store because that would be asinine and foolish for any customer to spend money on.
It was a voluntary donation you gave to say thanks for the years of continued free support and content, and they wanted to say thanks back by doing what they could : providing you with shiny perks.
They even tracked the donations publicly in comparison to the money they spent on just that one update so people could see how their money helped.

It's sad to me to consider that there's a chance that there would have been less drama or disgruntled reactions over the years if they simply opened up a donation page without any perks or rewards.


The only thing that gets under my skin more than voluntary donations as being seen simply as entitled skin purchases post facto... are the users who love to claim that all those donations went to Subnautica.. which is laughable it is so inaccurate.
For one, UWE didn't even recoup the costs of that one content update from all the donations - let alone prior updates, or even ones that followed it (like eclipse) - and in truth, Subnautica didn't need to use an ounce of said donation money anyways. But people get weird when it comes to reviewing how they spent their money in the past, clearly.

I believe it also heals cysts now too... but I may be wrong, its been a while since I pub-commed.

A few patches ago there were a couple changes to nutrient mist.
1) It was allowed anywhere even off infestation.
2) Nutrient mist stops harvesters from losing HP if it does not have infestation.

The exact rules might be different. My memory is not perfect.