Natural Selection 2 News Update - Build 206 released

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  • Jon-AceJon-Ace Join Date: 2009-06-13 Member: 67817Posts: 25Members
    Sexy changelog.

    Can't wait to go Cloggin'!
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  • PsiWarpPsiWarp Gifted Gorge Richmond, B.C., Canada Join Date: 2010-08-28 Member: 73810Posts: 1,566Members
    Awesome, Minecraft with spheres :D

    One highlight for me is the new Cyst building method, which is a good way to allow Commander to plan the direction of infestation spread without waiting for grown Cysts. If they end up being spammable though, you could always change the pre-placed Cysts to ghost structures (if not already the case), so the Khamm can't just put down easy distractions for ARCs.

    Good work on the patch, one notable bug is the quick menu getting locked up when Khamm selects a growing building, a work-in-progress of course.
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  • IeptBarakatIeptBarakat The most difficult name to speak ingame. Join Date: 2009-07-10 Member: 68107Posts: 2,135Members, Constellation, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow
    I had this problem with the drifters when I started it up.
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  • WilsonWilson Join Date: 2010-07-26 Member: 72867Posts: 1,397Members
    Good work on the video Hugh :)
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  • MaxMax Technical Director, Unknown Worlds Entertainment Join Date: 2002-03-15 Member: 318Posts: 1,686Super Administrators, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts admin
    edited April 2012
    QUOTE (IeptBarakat @ Apr 25 2012, 06:51 PM) »
    I had this problem with the drifters when I started it up.
    image

    That's intentional. They look like that to the Aliens when they are cloaked (placeholder effect).
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  • bLink`bLink` Join Date: 2012-02-18 Member: 146506Posts: 288Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    Drifter doesn't do anything. Is hydra really free?
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  • IeptBarakatIeptBarakat The most difficult name to speak ingame. Join Date: 2009-07-10 Member: 68107Posts: 2,135Members, Constellation, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow
    QUOTE (Max @ Apr 25 2012, 09:52 PM) »
    That's intentional. They look like that to the Aliens when they are cloaked (placeholder effect).


    Ah, thanks for the clarification.
  • internetexplorerinternetexplorer Join Date: 2011-10-13 Member: 127255Posts: 1,369Members
    "Reduced Lerk max speed by -15%"

    Is this a placeholder change until people can shoot lerks? Because when they can, the pre-206 lerk was already way too slow.

    I don't want the lerk to be made completely unfun to play just because it was good in 201 through 205.
  • Wyattx3Wyattx3 Join Date: 2003-07-23 Member: 18386Posts: 354Members
    Hell yes, Gorge is looking soooo much better. I love gorge but I hated waiting for pres. Those barriers/clogs are a great idea, could gorge evolve/upgrade it into a infestation bomb? Or maybe he spits one on the cieling waits for a marine to walk by then gorge can lure marine under and spit it to detonate into gooey bomb of acid over the marine?
  • DoppyDoppy Join Date: 2006-11-15 Member: 58624Posts: 121Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    I can't wait to give the new Gorge a try. He was my favorite class in NS1. Nicely done!
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  • PsiWarpPsiWarp Gifted Gorge Richmond, B.C., Canada Join Date: 2010-08-28 Member: 73810Posts: 1,566Members
    About the Clog, is it a bug or feature that the Gorge can destroy it using Spit? I hope this isn't the case for other lifeforms, or they would grief my little fort :(

    Not sure if they can walk through the Clogs made by others though.
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  • ComproxComprox *chortle* Canada Join Date: 2002-01-23 Member: 7Posts: 6,466Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts admin
    QUOTE (PsiWarp @ Apr 25 2012, 07:03 PM) »
    About the Clog, is it a bug or feature that the Gorge can destroy it using Spit? I hope this isn't the case for other lifeforms, or they would grief my little fort :(

    Not sure if they can walk through the Clogs made by others though.


    Any alien can destroy clogs right now. This prevents a gorge from blocking aliens inside a base or such. Lots of talking and changes may come to clogs though. This was just a temporary thing to prevent griefing.
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    QUOTE (PsiWarp @ Apr 25 2012, 09:03 PM) »
    About the Clog, is it a bug or feature that the Gorge can destroy it using Spit? I hope this isn't the case for other lifeforms, or they would grief my little fort :(

    Not sure if they can walk through the Clogs made by others though.


    I tried biting it as a skulk, and it's showing me that im hitting it. Then the clog got destroyed. It may be the same thing to other life forms.
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  • PsiWarpPsiWarp Gifted Gorge Richmond, B.C., Canada Join Date: 2010-08-28 Member: 73810Posts: 1,566Members
    Thanks Comprox and bLink', I look forward to seeing a better model and mechanic :P
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  • internetexplorerinternetexplorer Join Date: 2011-10-13 Member: 127255Posts: 1,369Members
    Just gorgerushed some poor guys. This patch makes the game feel so much more like NS it's incredible.

    Now make bellyslide not useless!
  • SinditalSindital Join Date: 2012-02-06 Member: 143971Posts: 3Members
    edited April 2012
    Clogs: I'm afraid this means gorges lean more towards the builder-type rather then the support role he should carry - add the removal of bilebomb from gorge too that and you have a completely useless unit late game.

    Although the goo wall is something fun, I'm afraid it's useless. I thought the Goo-walls were just going to be a material over Alien structures (such as bilebomb material) that would temporarily reinforce alien structures (which would in its turn be really useful early game to protect maturing harvesters and such)

    I also feel like they should get bilebomb back - I still don't get why you would move bilebomb from a slower, yet 'meatier' alien that covers a support role to an agile, flying alien that already has the ability to snipe and gas marines, and now also can terrorize their base. Just for the sake of balance.
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  • killer monkeykiller monkey Join Date: 2010-02-26 Member: 70743Posts: 560Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Clogs are the best things ever don't change them...ever.
  • internetexplorerinternetexplorer Join Date: 2011-10-13 Member: 127255Posts: 1,369Members
    Spawn waves feel really long and drawn out in a game where barely any fighting/killing is going on...
  • KoruyoKoruyo AUT Join Date: 2009-06-06 Member: 67724Posts: 1,693Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited April 2012
    ARE YOU TROLLING US UWE?

    - WTF WERE YOU THINKING WITH THE GORGES... NEW PRO TACTIC ALL GO GORGE AND SPAM HYDRAS AD INFINITUM?
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  • PsiWarpPsiWarp Gifted Gorge Richmond, B.C., Canada Join Date: 2010-08-28 Member: 73810Posts: 1,566Members
    Just found out the hard way how lethal Hydras are now, even corner peeking gets 20 HP chipped off your bar :P
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  • internetexplorerinternetexplorer Join Date: 2011-10-13 Member: 127255Posts: 1,369Members
    QUOTE (Koruyo @ Apr 25 2012, 10:18 PM) »
    ARE YOU TROLLING US UWE?

    - WTF WERE YOU THINKING WITH THE GORGES... NEW PRO TACTIC ALL GO GORGE AND SPAM HYDRAS AD INFINITUM UNTIL FADES?


    This is the best part about playing video games. It's SO easy to kill gorges since belly slide and heal spray are both garbage, but you decided to post here before even trying.
  • Squeal_Like_A_PigSqueal_Like_A_Pig Janitor Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 66Posts: 2,575Members, Super Administrators, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Reinforced - Supporter, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer admin
    QUOTE (bLink` @ Apr 26 2012, 01:56 AM) »
    Drifter doesn't do anything.

    Drifters can be used to scout. They cloak automatically when not moving, so Alien commanders can place them in spots to spy on marines. They will also get an ability called Enzyme, which will be coming shortly.

    --Cory
  • KoruyoKoruyo AUT Join Date: 2009-06-06 Member: 67724Posts: 1,693Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited April 2012
    Just that you can also place hydras and switch lifeform... so everybody can just place 3 free hydras and maybe delay going fade by a minute max...

    => 18 FREE hydras in the first minute (assuming 6v6) + going back to skulk.
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  • SentrySteveSentrySteve .txt Join Date: 2002-03-09 Member: 290Posts: 2,817Members, Constellation
    QUOTE (Comprox @ Apr 25 2012, 10:05 PM) »
    Any alien can destroy clogs right now. This prevents a gorge from blocking aliens inside a base or such. Lots of talking and changes may come to clogs though. This was just a temporary thing to prevent griefing.


    Any chance the aliens could have the ability to pass through a clog, almost like how a fast car needs to slow down for a speed bump? For balance I imagine some kind of 'clog pass through cooldown' would need to go along with it but how cool would it be to see an onos be poop'ed out of a clog? Plus it eliminates the griefing problems.
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  • c0kec0ke Join Date: 2004-07-02 Member: 29676Posts: 415Members
    edited April 2012
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    Gorges no longer pay resources to build anything, but instead have a set limit of each type of structure they can build. They get more with each additional hive.

    that does not sound good!
    the gorges will swim in resources!
    and everyone would just go gorge, build some stuff (to use the available structures) and directly become some other/higher lifeform
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  • RyneRyne Join Date: 2012-02-25 Member: 147408Posts: 443Members, NS2 Map Tester
    QUOTE
    Onos can now charge by holding his movement key (shift). If he hits a target, he does damage to them, but then gets angry. During his angry phase, he takes less damage but is slower.


    Not very intuitive....
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  • bLink`bLink` Join Date: 2012-02-18 Member: 146506Posts: 288Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    QUOTE (Squeal_Like_A_Pig @ Apr 25 2012, 09:22 PM) »
    Drifters can be used to scout. They cloak automatically when not moving, so Alien commanders can place them in spots to spy on marines. They will also get an ability called Enzyme, which will be coming shortly.

    --Cory


    Oh, I was wondering what they do. I tried to get 20 drifters and attack 1 marine, it didn't do anything lol.

    Also, new tactic I found. cyst up marine base then build 10 whips, 5 crags, and mist all of them :D so it's gg.
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  • internetexplorerinternetexplorer Join Date: 2011-10-13 Member: 127255Posts: 1,369Members
    Mines are way harder to see now.

    Gorge buildings don't vanish when you die/change lifeform.

    The game is still about the lerk.
  • GrissiGrissi Join Date: 2003-08-28 Member: 20314Posts: 454Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    edited April 2012
    There are a lot of good changes in the patch but there are few things I'm supriced that went through...

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    Added new alien wave spawn. Aliens respawn in waves every 20 or so seconds.

    This is horrible. This will the game have less action and will hurt the new players the most(the guys that dies the most). Who would ever want to wait 20 sec to spawn.
    Its a different story if it happened when you allowed marines into your hive(since then its your team at fault) but waiting 10-20 sec on most spawns is way to much.

    QUOTE
    Reduced Lerk max speed by -15% (now 11...sorry SabaHell!).

    This will probably make lerks drop down like flies, the speed was the only thing that allowed them to survive.

    QUOTE
    Further weakened Harvesters when they are built. Increased Harvester build time to 60. Watch out, they are very weak to start.

    The rt hp was fine, lowering the hp and increasing the hp is probably to much of a nerf to the alien harvesters. Both these changes were not needed.

    QUOTE
    Gorges no longer pay resources to build anything, but instead have a set limit of each type of structure they can build. They get more with each additional hive.

    I'm not sure if Charlie is trolling us or not because this is so bad.

    This is just ridicules, sure it will be fun for awhile but its very bad for the general gameplay of the game. Sorry if I sound bit harsh but some things just go to far and this is just stupid. Why would you ever make a game with so much focus on economy and then allow players to get powerful buildings for free.

    Every game will be spammed with hydras and marines can't counter it. It doesn't matter if you lose the hydras since you can just rebuild them any time you want. Hydras are already pretty strong but now they are free, I don't know how anyone thought this was a good idea.
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    There is no competitive balance or casual players balance. The game is either balanced or not balanced.
    It's the same game after all.


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