Natural Selection 2 News Update - Build 197 released

MaxMax Technical Director, Unknown Worlds Entertainment Join Date: 2002-03-15 Member: 318Super Administrators, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts, Future Perfect Developer
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  • ObraxisObraxis Subnautica Animator & Generalist, NS2 Person Join Date: 2004-07-24 Member: 30071Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Silver, WC 2013 - Supporter, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts
    First. Also yay :) That went out fast!
  • BCSephBCSeph Join Date: 2005-02-24 Member: 42384Members, Constellation
    Cool, now we just need some of the good servers updated so we can PLAYYYY!!!
  • Matthew94Matthew94 Join Date: 2011-08-06 Member: 114690Members
    Though I haven't been able to play much recently I am impressed with the rate and content of these last few updates.
  • {LoC}Blue_Leader{LoC}Blue_Leader Join Date: 2012-02-06 Member: 144025Members, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow
    Thanks for the quick update.
  • rantologyrantology Join Date: 2012-02-05 Member: 143750Members, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold
    ty for this hasty bug fix!
  • {LoC}Blue_Leader{LoC}Blue_Leader Join Date: 2012-02-06 Member: 144025Members, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited February 2012
    I am crashing quite a bit on the main menu when I'm looking through the servers most notably when I hit refresh, already sent a few crash reports your way. This never happened before this patch so it's not unreasonable to think it might be a cause.
  • OnosFactoryOnosFactory New Zealand Join Date: 2008-07-16 Member: 64637Members
    edited February 2012
    No servers? Is this a redo of steam files time?

    Ed: Yup, a nice restart of steam files never hurts anyone lol.
  • FedsfanzFedsfanz Join Date: 2012-02-09 Member: 144572Members
    edited February 2012
  • {LoC}Blue_Leader{LoC}Blue_Leader Join Date: 2012-02-06 Member: 144025Members, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1904409:date=Feb 17 2012, 08:10 PM:name=OnosFactory)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (OnosFactory @ Feb 17 2012, 08:10 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1904409"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->No servers? Is this a redo of steam files time?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    There's servers up, might be on your end.
  • MaxMax Technical Director, Unknown Worlds Entertainment Join Date: 2002-03-15 Member: 318Super Administrators, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts, Future Perfect Developer
    <!--quoteo(post=1904410:date=Feb 17 2012, 06:10 PM:name=Fedsfanz)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Fedsfanz @ Feb 17 2012, 06:10 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1904410"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Cant play, it immediately crash before entering the game..
    The log.txt says

    Build 197
    Starting Natural Selection 2

    I checked the integrity of the game files steam, but it crash anyway..
    Can someone help me?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Try running: C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\natural selection 2\redist\DirectX\DXSETUP.exe
  • PeabushPeabush Join Date: 2007-07-13 Member: 61575Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Nice :D But stomp dont work now.
  • M4RCO_XZM4RCO_XZ Join Date: 2012-02-12 Member: 145215Members
    Nice, what are the notes? :P
  • MrYiffMrYiff Join Date: 2004-08-24 Member: 30867Members, NS2 Playtester
    <!--quoteo(post=1904417:date=Feb 18 2012, 01:18 AM:name=M4RCO_XZ)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (M4RCO_XZ @ Feb 18 2012, 01:18 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1904417"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Nice, what are the notes? :P<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    From the front page of the website:
    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->We've just released a small patch to fix some game breaking issues from yesterday's patch. There are still some few minor issues with Power Nodes that we will be fixing for a future release, but we felt it was important to fix the major problems as quickly as possible.

    Fix

    Fixed bug where sometimes the Hive would spawn the player outside of the map.
    Fixed animations for Power Nodes.
    Fixed issue where an animation graph couldn't be changed during lag compensation.
    Fixed bug where Power Nodes were not reset at the end of a round.
    SDK

    Added AnimationGraph:GetFileName()<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • OnosFactoryOnosFactory New Zealand Join Date: 2008-07-16 Member: 64637Members
    edited February 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=1904411:date=Feb 18 2012, 02:14 PM:name={LoC}Blue_Leader)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE ({LoC}Blue_Leader @ Feb 18 2012, 02:14 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1904411"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->There's servers up, might be on your end.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yup, thanks dude/ette, check on steam helped immensly.
  • sebusebu Join Date: 2011-09-21 Member: 122375Members
    edited February 2012
    Played about 30mins today on your offical server. At times it was great fun! Still very laggy for me, But it was over 10 v 10 most of the time, so yeah, heckload of spamming involved.

    However, I encoutered some serious game breakers, FE. Alien spawn bug, that it when certain number of players died at the same time, spawner got jammed and showed that 6 players are in line and it didn't go anywhere ( We had 4 hives). It was alien win situation (suprise), and when 16 marines gets unleashed whitout resistance, it was pretty much over :D, had just to spectate them killing the hives.

    Minor ones, were like guns disappearing. I think this is a common problem? I'v had few times when my primary weapon gets completely lost, FE. When beacon gets summoned, and as far as i spawn "padabimpadabom" my shotgun has vanished. But i'v encountered this bug on previous builds also

    <u><b>I'v still got a BAD amount of random freezing, that could be linked to Vram, but i have 1024MB, and i'm running at 1024x768. It brakes the playability completely for me.</b></u>

    When you go over 10 v 10, basically its just random mess bunch of people trying to find those hitboxes on crack (on lag). But newerthless I'v still had some fun playing it (;

    Keep going!
  • criogenicscriogenics Join Date: 2003-01-13 Member: 12248Members, Constellation
    Just played for 1 hour. The power nodes are still bugged on summit.
  • rhombusrhombus Lerk Queen Join Date: 2011-06-23 Member: 106055Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->There are still some few minor issues with Power Nodes that we will be fixing for a future release, but we felt it was important to fix the major problems as quickly as possible.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • peregrinusperegrinus Join Date: 2010-07-16 Member: 72445Members
    edited February 2012
    Just had the most fun game I've ever played. And what's more, what happened in game seemed to be down to our own choices not bugs or things being OP. Graphics are fantastic, sound is getting better, the menu system is fine, game play is great.

    Some shots of the server browser, loading screen, start of round fly-by and then Onos action :D

    <img src="http://i.imgur.com/xzKyt.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
    <img src="http://i.imgur.com/34qju.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
    <img src="http://i.imgur.com/xgatt.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

    "We have you surrounded, put your tusks in the air!"
    <img src="http://i.imgur.com/0Hcai.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

    Matador fail
    <img src="http://i.imgur.com/Ruc3T.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

    End of the game. Power was cut, plunged into darkness, I switch on my torch and find this!

    <img src="http://i.imgur.com/NoFSo.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

    fin

    <img src="http://i.imgur.com/qiEuV.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

    Couple of minor things. It's a bit confusing how the loading screen shows images from maps you're NOT about to play. Can't it be level specific? If the map doesn't have official concept art, it could have something like a map blue print, or whatever the mapper wants to create. There's a wait for the player, why not give more information as well as pretty pictures?

    Animations are not always smooth.

    Quite a few times we had those ghost players visible to everyone. I saw people hanging in mid air too until they died.

    I want to help my team mates by welding them but they wont stand still. If I stop to type I won't be able to defend them/myself. Can you make an option for the marine to shout 'Let me repair your armour'?

    Saw a skulk walk on a mine without detonating it.
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited February 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=1904433:date=Feb 18 2012, 02:16 AM:name=sebu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sebu @ Feb 18 2012, 02:16 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1904433"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><u><b>I'v still got a BAD amount of random freezing, that could be linked to Vram, but i have 1024MB, and i'm running at 1024x768. It brakes the playability completely for me.</b></u><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I used to play on medium graphics settings, but then I took a cursor to the graphics settings...

    Today I tried "bloody awful" or what ever it's called. And this freezing is close to gone. I'm on 512Mb Vram with 2Gb DDR2, you could try the lowest setting and hope for the best...

    <-- I like medium for recording, but it is not playable for me (Mineshaft mostly and end game on any map) Now after a long time of being stubborn (I wantz mah medium, lowest setting is so blurry :( ) I can now play on 32 player server (well up to the point that someone on there placed 468 hydra's all over crushing room and Lance took it down to 22 again :D )
  • zastelszastels Join Date: 2003-11-29 Member: 23731Members
    Thanks for the timely patch!
  • Squeal_Like_A_PigSqueal_Like_A_Pig Janitor Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 66Members, Super Administrators, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Reinforced - Supporter, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer
    <!--quoteo(post=1904456:date=Feb 18 2012, 03:49 AM:name=peregrinus)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (peregrinus @ Feb 18 2012, 03:49 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1904456"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Couple of minor things. It's a bit confusing how the loading screen shows images from maps you're NOT about to play. Can't it be level specific? If the map doesn't have official concept art, it could have something like a map blue print, or whatever the mapper wants to create. There's a wait for the player, why not give more information as well as pretty pictures?

    I want to help my team mates by welding them but they wont stand still. If I stop to type I won't be able to defend them/myself. Can you make an option for the marine to shout 'Let me repair your armour'?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Some good shots, there, in particular the "we have you surrounded" one is great.

    the eventual plan for the loading screen is to most likely have map specific loading screens for the map you are about to play, and to use the space to convey some information and tips to players. The loading screens will get an official UI pass, but first we have to get the more important UI in the game taken care of.

    One of the final stages of the development will be to get a voice actor to record all the marine voice stuff, so I imagine at that time we'll have a whole list of useful in game phrases, such as one about repairing another players armor, that will give to the voice actor to record.

    --Cory
  • rantologyrantology Join Date: 2012-02-05 Member: 143750Members, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold
    perhaps the patch was too hasty...power nodes on summit are still bugged. :(
  • bLink`bLink` Join Date: 2012-02-18 Member: 146506Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    Thanks for the update! I'm new to this game, I saw this game on another forum and never seen anything like it. My mind was blown out that I had to buy the game so I can play the beta. First Person Shooter with Strategy is fun. I mostly love FPS games, and some Strategy games like Red Alert 3, SC2, etc. This game is like both. Even though there's lot of issues in the game(like crashing, floating drifters, etc.), I still find it fun. Great game btw! Keep up the good work! Can't wait to until all the polishing gets done :P
  • 1dominator11dominator1 Join Date: 2010-11-19 Member: 75011Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1904483:date=Feb 17 2012, 11:35 PM:name=Squeal_Like_A_Pig)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Squeal_Like_A_Pig @ Feb 17 2012, 11:35 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1904483"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->One of the final stages of the development will be to get a voice actor to record all the marine voice stuff, so I imagine at that time we'll have a whole list of useful in game phrases, such as one about repairing another players armor, that will give to the voice actor to record.

    --Cory<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    Perhaps put in some sort of audio for the person being welded? I think most people would be willing to stand still to get armour, but many just dont realise someone is trying to weld them. Or maybe some sort of text prompt (although I think a welding sound would be best).
  • SampsonSampson Join Date: 2012-01-06 Member: 139769Members
    anyone mention how half the nodes don't work so marines are auto-screwed?
  • Squeal_Like_A_PigSqueal_Like_A_Pig Janitor Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 66Members, Super Administrators, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Reinforced - Supporter, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer
    <!--quoteo(post=1904496:date=Feb 18 2012, 06:16 AM:name=1dominator1)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (1dominator1 @ Feb 18 2012, 06:16 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1904496"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Perhaps put in some sort of audio for the person being welded? I think most people would be willing to stand still to get armour, but many just dont realise someone is trying to weld them. Or maybe some sort of text prompt (although I think a welding sound would be best).<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes, an audio cue for the person being welded is a good idea, and probably some kind of HUD indication as well. It will also be a bit more noticeable as soon as the welder model is in, because the person trying to weld you will be holding a welder, instead of just their regular weapon as it is currently.

    --Cory
  • FragmagnetFragmagnet Join Date: 2010-07-26 Member: 72873Members
    Forgot to notify people that I updated my flashlight for build 197
  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    We get it Frag, you have a flashlight.
  • FragmagnetFragmagnet Join Date: 2010-07-26 Member: 72873Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1904509:date=Feb 18 2012, 03:53 AM:name=Techercizer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Techercizer @ Feb 18 2012, 03:53 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1904509"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->We get it Frag, you have a flashlight.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    I know you guys know.

    I still need to notify people of when I update it for the newest NS2 build.
  • PricePrice Join Date: 2003-09-27 Member: 21247Members
    edited February 2012
    Oh man NS2 is getting better and better.
    Just someday the needed decalsystem and its great.
    i realy enjoy the graphics (even with low fps.)
    The only game i play the last 3 month and its getting more exciting.
    Thank you Uwe for this game, i guess its the only game in that one of a kind.
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