101 Ways to Crash NS2

ArgathorArgathor Join Date: 2011-07-18 Member: 110942Posts: 682Members, Squad Five Blue
Since b188-ish I have steadily found NS2 crashes more and more often each patch. At the moment it is so bad I can barely finish games. While it could all be one issue the various actions I am performing when crashing could easily be different issues/bugs too:

1) Buying weapons
2) Firing weapons
3) Switching weapons
4) Joining Teams
5) Starting Rounds
6) Ending Rounds
7) Evolving Lifeforms
8) Tabbing Out/Into NS2

etc

The odd thing is that this has only effected me in public matches to date. I have never crashed during an ENSL Gather match. This would draw me towards it somehow being server performance related, but with such a small sample size it could easily be random chance.

My PC runs the game fine, specs: i7 920 @ 4.1ghz, 12GB RAM, AMD 5850. In long games I get around 70 FPS constantly, dropping to perhaps 50-60 FPS in combat.

I know at the moment there is an issue with servers chucking a load of people off at the same time (and them crashing), I have only had that happen to me once. These crashes are solely effecting me from my experience.

Do other people find Gathers far more stable?
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  • MaxMax Technical Director, Unknown Worlds Entertainment Join Date: 2002-03-15 Member: 318Posts: 1,650Super Administrators, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, Subnautica Developer admin
    The next patch will fixes for the most common crashes we've seen (based on the sumitted reports), including some of the ones you have listed.
    Max McGuire
    Technical Director, Unknown Worlds Entertainment
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands, Hoogezand Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Posts: 11,424Forum Admins, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue mod
    I've been cheated out of 93 crash options :P

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  • ArgathorArgathor Join Date: 2011-07-18 Member: 110942Posts: 682Members, Squad Five Blue
    QUOTE (Max @ Feb 7 2012, 03:13 PM) »
    The next patch will fixes for the most common crashes we've seen (based on the sumitted reports), including some of the ones you have listed.

    That is fantastic news!

    It also reminded me of something. When I crash all I see is a black screen, I have to end the crash report window (which I cannot see to submit it) to be able to close the game.

    Is there some reason the crash report window does not appear for me? Is there an easy way to make it appear?

    P.S. I have been running NS2 off my SSD for a while now and the game loads blisteringly fast. I can get into most servers in 2-3 seconds, which is amazing (in my experience) for a modern game!
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  • ArgathorArgathor Join Date: 2011-07-18 Member: 110942Posts: 682Members, Squad Five Blue
    QUOTE (Kouji_San @ Feb 7 2012, 03:21 PM) »
    I've been cheated out of 93 crash options :P

    Oh balls... *heads off make to up 93 ways to crash*
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  • ZeikkoZeikko Join Date: 2007-12-16 Member: 63179Posts: 585Members, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester
    I haven't had a crash in weeks or months and I play mostly ensl gathers and don't really spend much time in public servers.
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands, Hoogezand Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Posts: 11,424Forum Admins, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue mod
    QUOTE (Argathor @ Feb 7 2012, 03:30 PM) »
    Is there some reason the crash report window does not appear for me? Is there an easy way to make it appear?

    Windowed mode give you more control over crashes that turn NS2 into an unresponsive mess.

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  • YuukiYuuki Join Date: 2010-11-20 Member: 75079Posts: 1,731Members
    I've been crashing a lot when buying a shotgun, it's like a lottery.

    Seems it will be fixed in next patch !

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    Crashing when buying a shotgun Delivered
  • PricePrice Join Date: 2003-09-27 Member: 21247Posts: 1,281Members
    Hmm i have the most times only a "prompt exit" if i alt-tab out the game and on end of a round, but the last thing was gone with 194 i guess, it don't happend that much.
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  • swalkswalk Say hello to my little friend. Join Date: 2011-01-20 Member: 78384Posts: 1,868Members, Squad Five Blue
    How about the mousewheel to change weapon spam, which takes all serverperformance and causes connection problems? :P

    NS2 6v6 Gathers
    QUOTE (Floodinator @ Feb 28 2012, 08:41 PM) »
    it's always a good idea to kill swalk or he will kill you.
  • ubikjamubikjam Join Date: 2011-10-04 Member: 125618Posts: 72Members
    Just worth noting, when I last got a CTD the crash reporter stopped responding aswell. So in the future if you're not getting many crash reports back that might be why.
  • SilverwingSilverwing bulletsponge Join Date: 2003-11-23 Member: 23395Posts: 494Members, Constellation
    Meh. Just play without those things. See it as a challenge! =)
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  • YotopiaYotopia Join Date: 2010-11-22 Member: 75176Posts: 144Members
    QUOTE (Max @ Feb 7 2012, 04:13 PM) »
    The next patch will fixes for the most common crashes we've seen (based on the sumitted reports), including some of the ones you have listed.


    Had also very much crashes in this build which i hadnt before.Always as alien commander selecting entities or clickling on infestation and so on...


    But hey Max this is off topic :)

    But just wanted to say to you that "Gorilla Patch" hast been postet in the news today of the biggest german gaming site.

    http://www.gamestar.de/spiele/natural-sele...16,2564512.html

    The comments are overall positive (also with the notes inside that ns1 was/is to complex and intelligent to understand for casual gamers (but this made/makes this game so unique !!!)).
    From my side i had more fun and thrill with this patch then with any stupid 3D Shooter/x what was made since HL1 engine/mods.
    I wish your team an additional outstanding engine programmer for the brutal finish !
    This game is a masterpiece artwork for such a small team !!!
    And yes i am a fanboy.....
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands, Hoogezand Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Posts: 11,424Forum Admins, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue mod
    They already know about that one, good to see. Some whining about the trailer it seems :P

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  • TykjenTykjen Join Date: 2003-01-21 Member: 12552Posts: 945Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    So far, NS2 has not crashed once for me. Solid as a rock.
  • SkymanderXSkymanderX Green Marine - The Few, The Proud, The Green. Join Date: 2011-07-29 Member: 113006Posts: 430Members
    works well for me considering i'm using a laptop.
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  • RaikoificationRaikoification Join Date: 2011-10-13 Member: 127076Posts: 38Members
    I havent.... crashed.... in..... NS2.....yet......
  • FlayraFlayra Game Director, Unknown Worlds Entertainment San Francisco Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 3Posts: 6,821Super Administrators, NS2 Developer, Subnautica Developer admin
    Thanks for posting the crash reports and German news pimpage here guys!
    Charlie Cleveland
    Game Director, Unknown Worlds Entertainment
  • YotopiaYotopia Join Date: 2010-11-22 Member: 75176Posts: 144Members
    QUOTE (Flayra @ Feb 8 2012, 07:00 PM) »
    Thanks for posting the crash reports and German news pimpage here guys!

    Cant join any favorite server of mine atm because they are full :)
    But wtf means "pimpage" ?
    My english is very bad but this sounds more like american slang and i found no translation for it.
  • JitterzJitterz Join Date: 2011-12-22 Member: 138845Posts: 24Members
    edited February 2012
    I have only crashed 1 time with almost 40 hours of play. It was as alien commander and the bug reporter crashed as well :(

    Oops 102 hours. Where the hell does the time go?
    Post edited by Unknown User on
  • YotopiaYotopia Join Date: 2010-11-22 Member: 75176Posts: 144Members
    Any german speaking guy or women here who can translate me "pimpage" ?
  • peregrinusperegrinus Join Date: 2010-07-16 Member: 72445Posts: 2,426Members
    QUOTE (Yotopia @ Feb 9 2012, 10:58 PM) »
    Any german speaking guy or women here who can translate me "pimpage" ?


    You know the MTV show 'Pimp my ride' ?

  • YotopiaYotopia Join Date: 2010-11-22 Member: 75176Posts: 144Members
    QUOTE (peregrinus @ Feb 10 2012, 12:10 AM) »
    You know the MTV show 'Pimp my ride' ?

    Whats MTV ?

  • ArgathorArgathor Join Date: 2011-07-18 Member: 110942Posts: 682Members, Squad Five Blue
    And with b198 I am back to crashing all the time.

    We are barely 24 hours in and my client has crashed 9 times (from during map load, to gameplay and round end). Also, again due to how NS2 crashes I cannot see the debugger/crash report window, so have to ctrl+alt+del and close them, so don't even get to report the crashes properly.
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  • John BlackthorneJohn Blackthorne Join Date: 2012-02-23 Member: 147245Posts: 44Members
    edited February 2012
    QUOTE (Argathor @ Feb 25 2012, 01:35 PM) »
    And with b198 I am back to crashing all the time.

    We are barely 24 hours in and my client has crashed 9 times (from during map load, to gameplay and round end). Also, again due to how NS2 crashes I cannot see the debugger/crash report window, so have to ctrl+alt+del and close them, so don't even get to report the crashes properly.


    198 Argathor seems to have messed up quite a few things across the board
    Post edited by Unknown User on
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  • MrYiffMrYiff Join Date: 2004-08-24 Member: 30867Posts: 168Members, NS2 Playtester
    QUOTE (Argathor @ Feb 25 2012, 06:35 PM) »
    And with b198 I am back to crashing all the time.

    We are barely 24 hours in and my client has crashed 9 times (from during map load, to gameplay and round end). Also, again due to how NS2 crashes I cannot see the debugger/crash report window, so have to ctrl+alt+del and close them, so don't even get to report the crashes properly.


    Can you try running in windowed mode to see if that lets you get to the crash debug screen any easier? The more crash debug reports we can get the better chance Max and Dushan have of fixing them asap.
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  • PricePrice Join Date: 2003-09-27 Member: 21247Posts: 1,281Members
    edited February 2012
    I realy wonder why people have crashes, i don't have any crash since 19X i guess.
    Realy, the only crash i had, if i alt tab a long time and try to go back to ns2.
    but at all i can say the game runs very well, i mean you have to play older builds, gee it was luck to stay on a server a round.
    Now its great in my opinion.
    Post edited by Unknown User on
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  • FloodinatorFloodinator [HBZ] Member Join Date: 2005-02-22 Member: 42087Posts: 1,301Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Today we had a longer game with 4 hives on mineshaft. Suddenly all marines and 50% of the aliens crashed.
    That felt strange everywhere was boom bang peng and suddenly it was so quiet...scared.
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    QUOTE (Yotopia @ Feb 9 2012, 11:52 AM) »
    But wtf means "pimpage" ?
    My english is very bad but this sounds more like american slang and i found no translation for it.

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pimpage

    Good site if you have questions on English slang.
  • PricePrice Join Date: 2003-09-27 Member: 21247Posts: 1,281Members
    edited February 2012
    QUOTE (Floodinator @ Feb 25 2012, 08:32 PM) »
    Today we had a longer game with 4 hives on mineshaft. Suddenly all marines and 50% of the aliens crashed.

    I had now like 5 games since 198 and NO crash, even not after i host (weirdly) my ONLINE lan server and got it full up to 14 people.
    yes you read right, i mark as LAN and it was online play ^^
    But the game runs totaly fine, even the pings was great, 5vs5 was playable, i was very surprised.

    Edit:
    I just remember one weird bug but not crash with 197, where i drop a mine behind the command station and the game goes crazy.
    Like build your mine messages, and if you are in mine range, you saw your thirdperson model in firstpersonview.
    But realy no crash and i got a ATI card, which is bad for the most games.
    I had the newest drivers, Win 7@64bit and newest drivers, also i don't install every sh*t on my computer, which means i only run software (e.g. anti-virus) i need.
    Post edited by Unknown User on
    Buy NS2 @ Steam![Support the Indie Devs!]
    ( my english isn't the best... )

    ,,NS1 was one of the best mods."
    ,,NS2 is one of the best MP games."

    A NS2 classic mod, will it be a remake?
    New NS2 Maps: Biodome, Ignore: BVKnight, Metal Man
    EVERYONE is a Winner, because you won the race against 400–800 other Sperms :P
  • DrummerDrummer Join Date: 2004-02-18 Member: 26654Posts: 840Members
    i have certainly noticed more crashes in 198, tho i think its mainly server crashes that ive had. the game slows to a crawl, i see connection problems detected, and at that point i just type disconnect in console and rejoin when the server gets back up
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