Natural Selection 2 News Update - NS2 Build 173 Released

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  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    Whoa, big list of fixes! Good job all around.
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  • playerplayer Join Date: 2010-09-12 Member: 73982Members
    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The async Shared.GetWebpage() function now works correctly<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Aha, I know someone who will be pleased.
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  • TheSlimTheSlim Join Date: 2005-03-05 Member: 43384Members
    Finally a work on performace. heard the servers are set to 30 fps which is alright for beta. but i would like to see a number closer to 60 :) Good job guys!
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  • ahrzahrz Join Date: 2009-06-03 Member: 67667Members, WC 2013 - Supporter
    nice to have these fixes+contributions from the community!
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    Loaded up Tram, a small increase in performance. Max peak FPS is @ around 30 now in small corridors. But it still mostly hovers around 18-22 with peaks downwards to 9-12


    Also Doors... i can't go trough them using any class on a localhost (cheats on). They gone done sabotaged our doors!
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  • meb2meb2 Join Date: 2010-07-25 Member: 72824Members
    server ops get your servers off ns2_junction that map is broken
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  • QuovatisQuovatis Team Inversion Join Date: 2010-01-26 Member: 70321Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    Looking forward to all the features and fixes. Really want to see the alien armor changes.
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  • LazerLazer Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14406Members, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester
    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The async Shared.GetWebpage() function now works correctly<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Live stats can be a bit more live :)
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  • weeschweeweeschwee Join Date: 2010-11-19 Member: 75031Members
    i used the search function, but couldn't find a clear answer, so i'm sorry but...how do you see your frame rate? is there a thread with console commands that would be useful? thanks!
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited April 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1841859:date=Apr 22 2011, 12:41 AM:name=weeschwee)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (weeschwee @ Apr 22 2011, 12:41 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1841859"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->i used the search function, but couldn't find a clear answer, so i'm sorry but...how do you see your frame rate? is there a thread with console commands that would be useful? thanks!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    There's a <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/wiki/index.php/Console_Commands" target="_blank">wiki</a> though


    Also advanced search for these forums is bookmark material (it's kind of hidden)
    <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?s=&act=Search&mode=adv&f=0" target="_blank">http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index....ode=adv&f=0</a>
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  • MagnetoMagneto Join Date: 2010-12-22 Member: 75856Members
    Has the big lua performance improvements made it into this patch?
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1841862:date=Apr 22 2011, 12:45 AM:name=Magneto)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Magneto @ Apr 22 2011, 12:45 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1841862"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Has the big lua performance improvements made it into this patch?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The start for that was actually Build171, gradually more improvements are going in regarding the new script binding code
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  • MagnetoMagneto Join Date: 2010-12-22 Member: 75856Members
    Ah i thought it was going to be all in one go, that might explain the performance improvement i noticed recently, it seems at least for me the stutter is mostly gone, its still low fps at times but smoother if you know what i mean. :)
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  • linfosomalinfosoma Join Date: 2009-05-28 Member: 67523Members
    Yeah the stutter seems to be gone. Im getting around 50 fps average so it's mostly fine. It's still a bit laggy for me though.
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited April 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1841864:date=Apr 22 2011, 12:50 AM:name=Magneto)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Magneto @ Apr 22 2011, 12:50 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1841864"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Ah i thought it was going to be all in one go, that might explain the performance improvement i noticed recently, it seems at least for me the stutter is mostly gone, its still low fps at times but smoother if you know what i mean. :)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Weird thing is though. FPS has gone down some, but the game feels smoother... Odd phenomena is odd!


    Oh oh, and since the new lua thingy I can now load maps on the fly without NS2.exe telling me to GTFO. Well 8/10 times it doesn't crash, which is better compared to 10/10 anyway you sliceNdice it...
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  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    It was a small 4v4 on rockdown but I was able to play effectively without massive hitching in firefights and stuff (and at 100+ ping too), awesome! The performance is now thoroughly playable for me.
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  • MagnetoMagneto Join Date: 2010-12-22 Member: 75856Members
    Yeah the game finally feels quite playable to me, even though fps can be low at times the fact it's smooth makes a huge difference, ideally id hope for a reasonably stable 60 fps most of the time on mid to high end hardware but for now things are looking good. :)
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  • MajinMajin Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16829Members, Constellation
    This Beta is looking better and Better, I think I will need to get the BETA off steam and get involved in this.

    Any good Northern USA/Canada Servers that are popular?
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  • KoruyoKoruyo AUT Join Date: 2009-06-06 Member: 67724Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    I love the added sound echos! Now you also hear that you are walking in metal corridors...
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  • schkorpioschkorpio I can mspaint Join Date: 2003-05-23 Member: 16635Members
    sigh
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  • DJPenguinDJPenguin Useless Join Date: 2003-07-29 Member: 18538Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1841875:date=Apr 21 2011, 09:37 PM:name=schkorpio)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (schkorpio @ Apr 21 2011, 09:37 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1841875"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->sigh<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    care for a massage?
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  • VeNeMVeNeM Join Date: 2002-07-13 Member: 928Members
    anyone still crashing to desktop a few minutes into game? need to know
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  • McGlaspieMcGlaspie www.team156.com Join Date: 2010-07-26 Member: 73044Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver, Squad Five Gold, Reinforced - Onos, WC 2013 - Gold, Subnautica Playtester
    edited April 2011
    It took about 28 minutes for me, but I still had a CTD. As Kouji said, doors are completely fubared. They open when locked and you can see through them, but collision still happens regardless.

    Server performance seems only slightly better for this patch, 172 was the biggest increase. It still "felt" like hydras / sentries / structures bogged down the server, but it is no where near as pronounced as before (which is good!). I feel a lot more work needs to be done to address this.

    Hydras actually feel useful now, which is awesome imo. Alien armor is still almost pointless. As mentioned in earlier threads, the way armor and its upgrade are calculated makes it basically a moot point.


    EDIT: Oh forgot one. When joining a game after crashing, I could hear the Marine comm over voice chat during the join process. Hugh (NS2HD) really gives some detailed instructions. ;)
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  • SatanLovesYOuSatanLovesYOu Join Date: 2004-05-03 Member: 28410Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    I played for a bit and I had not a single issue. I was able to kill shotgun wielding marines with a fade or as a skulk. Can't wait for more content!
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  • TheSlimTheSlim Join Date: 2005-03-05 Member: 43384Members
    edited April 2011
    When i play as marine I can hear ONE step of alien paw (or whatever) at a random location when i stand still and listen. and there isn't even an alien nearby. whats that all about? i can hear it about every other 10 seconds or something like that. is that a bug or is there really an alien nearby like in a vent?
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  • CaCaCaCa Join Date: 2003-06-12 Member: 17319Members
    Yes, I noticed the same thing as ^ .

    I'd hear an alien "step", but there were no aliens nearby, I'm sure of it.
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  • shivshiv Join Date: 2010-04-11 Member: 71341Members, Constellation
    Great work!. Not that it's anything new but I'm crashing a lot. I find that more often than not I'm crashing when purchasing something from the armory.
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  • weeschweeweeschwee Join Date: 2010-11-19 Member: 75031Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1841883:date=Apr 21 2011, 08:41 PM:name=VeNeM)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VeNeM @ Apr 21 2011, 08:41 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1841883"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->anyone still crashing to desktop a few minutes into game? need to know<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    yeah, it still happens to me too. it will freeze and either i have to tab out which will instantly shut down the game and bring up a promt to send a log or it will crash to desktop on its own. usually i end up tabbing out quickly cuz i know it will never resolve itself.

    and thank you Kouji_San for the links.
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  • VeNeMVeNeM Join Date: 2002-07-13 Member: 928Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1841914:date=Apr 22 2011, 02:12 AM:name=weeschwee)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (weeschwee @ Apr 22 2011, 02:12 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1841914"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->yeah, it still happens to me too. it will freeze and either i have to tab out which will instantly shut down the game and bring up a promt to send a log or it will crash to desktop on its own. usually i end up tabbing out quickly cuz i know it will never resolve itself.

    and thank you Kouji_San for the links.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    2-3 minutes into the game

    Direct3DDevice::Vertex buffer initialization failed- 43008bytes (dynamic)

    still. 17* still a pos.
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  • gamester_5gamester_5 Join Date: 2008-04-17 Member: 64094Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1841917:date=Apr 22 2011, 12:52 AM:name=VeNeM)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VeNeM @ Apr 22 2011, 12:52 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1841917"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->2-3 minutes into the game

    Direct3DDevice::Vertex buffer initialization failed- 43008bytes (dynamic)

    still. 17* still a pos.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Well thats not good news, I was getting the same errors as listed above ^ and crashing 2 minutes in.
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