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  • AbraAbra Would you kindly Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19870Posts: 2,166Members
    I really loved hearing about the stuff that I had to go through too and do. By the way, the tower must be constructed! It has been surrounded by scaffolding for about two years now. biggrin-fix.gif (seriously though, do as you like, it's a DF fortress)

    I'll look forward to seeing if the drink shortage will claim any victims.

    Actually, when I first saw the fortress, I was turned off by its layout. I like my fortresses to have nice organized layout. But the mess is turning out very... yes.

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  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Posts: 8,186Forum Moderators, Constellation mod
    Say, where's the lever to the low entrance bridge? Assuming there is one.
  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Posts: 3,316Members
    QUOTE(Align @ May 29 2008, 03:33 PM) »
    Say, where's the lever to the low entrance bridge? Assuming there is one.


    Oh yeah, that was one of mine. I put it at the top of the stairs leading to the lower entrance several floors up. When a marauding horde of goblins are charging towards an entrance, you want want the switch to be well inside of said entrance. I once had an ambush where the dwarf given the task of pulling the level of doom got scared and ran away from the approaching goblins ONE square away from being close enough to pull the lever. Argh.
    QUOTE (Gwahir @ Jun 2 2008, 06:30 PM) »
    QUOTE (Abra @ Jun 2 2008, 06:19 PM) »
    The day the word "danger" makes it into my dictionary, is the day the workplace related deaths exceeds the "workplace related death-to-oh my, magma is being pumped, awesome!"-ratio.

    I am disturbed by your obsession with pumping hot fluids.
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Posts: 8,186Forum Moderators, Constellation mod
    Abrah, are you aware that your rooms are really weirdly shaped and have their value reduced an awful lot since they intersect?
  • AbraAbra Would you kindly Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19870Posts: 2,166Members
    I am now. Feel free to fix my noobish room making, if you have the time smile-fix.gif
    Denmark
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  • aNytiMeaNytiMe Join Date: 2008-03-31 Member: 64007Posts: 737Members, Constellation
    Just how much obsidian is there on the map? Also, why use stonefall traps? Weapon/Cage traps > *
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Posts: 9,006Members
    Stonefall traps are quick to set up and do heavy damage, and are therefore perfect for early fort defense. But yes, they should be replaced by more advanced traps once the resources are available.
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  • aNytiMeaNytiMe Join Date: 2008-03-31 Member: 64007Posts: 737Members, Constellation
    QUOTE(lolfighter @ May 31 2008, 10:19 PM) »
    Stonefall traps are quick to set up and do heavy damage, and are therefore perfect for early fort defense.

    Stonefall traps are lazy way to set up and do light damage, and therefore need to be avoided in favor of superior defense mechanisms.

    If there is obsidian on the map, all you need is a good miner and a craftsdwarf workshop.
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Posts: 8,186Forum Moderators, Constellation mod
    You mean obsidian swords? Those require a log of wood too, don't they?
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Posts: 9,006Members
    QUOTE(aNytiMe @ Jun 1 2008, 05:23 AM) »
    Stonefall traps are lazy way to set up and do light damage, and therefore need to be avoided in favor of superior defense mechanisms.

    If there is obsidian on the map, all you need is a good miner and a craftsdwarf workshop.

    Not light damage, heavy damage. A stonefall trap kills most of the stuff that walks under it.
    Military cemeteries around the world are packed with brainwashed, dead soldiers who were convinced God was on their side.
    - George Carlin
  • aNytiMeaNytiMe Join Date: 2008-03-31 Member: 64007Posts: 737Members, Constellation
    edited June 2008
    QUOTE(lolfighter @ Jun 1 2008, 06:17 PM) »
    Not light damage, heavy damage. A stonefall trap kills most of the stuff that walks under it.

    Compare that to a stacked weapon trap with a bunch of spiked balls.

    Also, is wood really a problem on that map? If so then that sky bridge better be finished by my turn!
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  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Posts: 9,006Members
    A stonefall trap will do perfectly adequate damage early on. It'll kill wildlife and goblin poachers with ease. That's all you need for the first year or two.
    Military cemeteries around the world are packed with brainwashed, dead soldiers who were convinced God was on their side.
    - George Carlin
  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Posts: 4,272Members, Constellation
    I'm glad you've noticed the level of planning that went into the water tower Align. One thing I'm worried about: when you started that gear work, did you cut away some wall or open some new channels? I worry because the pumps hold water on one end but not the other, so if you cut things open, it might lose its water tight state. When I'm ruler again, I'll set up some water return ports (to maintain the upper level while the system is under stress) and new overflow-proof drain ports.

    Yes indeed, I am the engineering ruler of this here fort.
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  • AbraAbra Would you kindly Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19870Posts: 2,166Members
    I have had my moments of engineering masterwork. Like, remember the time I pumped magma 4 floors down the mountainside?

    seriously though, get pumping smile-fix.gif
    Denmark
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  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Posts: 4,272Members, Constellation
    edited June 2008
    I did your thing for a while, it overflowed and posed a danger, so I stopped it. If I simply let it go the stuff would eventually harden. So I made a magma grid extending 6 levels down with full length channels. Much safer, much more effective, much more useful tounge.gif

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    3 grids like this exist on every other level across those 6 levels.
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  • AbraAbra Would you kindly Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19870Posts: 2,166Members
    The day the word "danger" makes it into my dictionary, is the day the workplace related deaths exceeds the "workplace related death-to-oh my, maga is being pumped, awesome!"-ratio.
    Denmark
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    Abra wins the thread.

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  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Posts: 4,272Members, Constellation
    QUOTE(Abra @ Jun 2 2008, 07:19 PM) »
    The day the word "danger" makes it into my dictionary, is the day the workplace related deaths exceeds the "workplace related death-to-oh my, maga is being pumped, awesome!"-ratio.


    I am disturbed by your obsession with pumping hot fluids.
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  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Posts: 8,186Forum Moderators, Constellation mod
    QUOTE(Gwahir @ Jun 2 2008, 09:32 PM) »
    I'm glad you've noticed the level of planning that went into the water tower Align. One thing I'm worried about: when you started that gear work, did you cut away some wall or open some new channels? I worry because the pumps hold water on one end but not the other, so if you cut things open, it might lose its water tight state. When I'm ruler again, I'll set up some water return ports (to maintain the upper level while the system is under stress) and new overflow-proof drain ports.
    I did dig into the side of the system at the bottom, but then I realized my mistake and walled it up. The water already pumped up by the pumps didn't move though, so it wouldn't have caused a problem with the pumps anyway, but dwarves would use the door by the pumps as a shortcut so I'm leaving the wall there.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Posts: 9,006Members
    You're on your fifth day now, by the way.
    Military cemeteries around the world are packed with brainwashed, dead soldiers who were convinced God was on their side.
    - George Carlin
  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Posts: 4,272Members, Constellation
    edited June 2008
    Faskalia, I strongly suggest making another burial area during your turn. After all the deaths that align had, I'm pretty sure the new section I made is near full. With the bad feelings all these deaths and injuries are making, we don't want to add to them by making them endure the decay of friends.

    edit: I'm really glad my water tower worked out!
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  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Posts: 8,186Forum Moderators, Constellation mod
    edited June 2008
    I made another smallish tomb (19 coffins), so that'll at least provide a buffer until more can be made.

    If I ever join something like this again, I'll save up comments and thoughts until they reach critical mass(1 year) rather than this diary-style. Didn't really work so well. But I won't be signing up for another round soon, too much on my plate.

    Save uploaded.
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  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Posts: 4,272Members, Constellation
    All yours Faskalia

    /me can't wait for his turn.
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  • MonkfishMonkfish Sonic-boom-inducing buttcheeks of terrifying speed! Join Date: 2003-06-03 Member: 16972Posts: 2,779Members
    Aligns tileset is very weird.
  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Posts: 3,316Members
    edited June 2008
    Random thing I just noticed:

    If you look at the nearest goblin civilisation from the civilisation screen, instead of imports and exports to them being listed in terms of value, your exports from them are "Terror" and imports are "Vengeance".

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    QUOTE (Gwahir @ Jun 2 2008, 06:30 PM) »
    QUOTE (Abra @ Jun 2 2008, 06:19 PM) »
    The day the word "danger" makes it into my dictionary, is the day the workplace related deaths exceeds the "workplace related death-to-oh my, magma is being pumped, awesome!"-ratio.

    I am disturbed by your obsession with pumping hot fluids.
  • FaskaliaFaskalia Wechsellichtzeichenanlage Join Date: 2004-09-12 Member: 31651Posts: 2,405Members, Constellation
    Ok, I have seen the save and will be bringing a USB stick for transfer tomorrow.
    So expect my round to finish saturday!
    QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Jul 30 2008, 03:51 PM) »
    The only similarity to Ground Control is that instead of arriving from a building, your dudes arrive from the sky. Why does that merit a meh?
    QUOTE(puzl @ Apr 20 2007, 04:38 PM) »
    You can mince it anyway you like, but if a government can take it a way then it doesn't really matter if it is a right or a privilege, does it?
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Posts: 8,186Forum Moderators, Constellation mod
    QUOTE(Sonic @ Jun 3 2008, 10:07 PM) »
    Aligns tileset is very weird.

    I made it myself out of one of the wiki tilesets, by markavian or someone.
  • FaskaliaFaskalia Wechsellichtzeichenanlage Join Date: 2004-09-12 Member: 31651Posts: 2,405Members, Constellation
    I got the files.
    Teaser will be up tomorrow and the whole thing will be up late saturday (talk about 12 am gmt+1)
    QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Jul 30 2008, 03:51 PM) »
    The only similarity to Ground Control is that instead of arriving from a building, your dudes arrive from the sky. Why does that merit a meh?
    QUOTE(puzl @ Apr 20 2007, 04:38 PM) »
    You can mince it anyway you like, but if a government can take it a way then it doesn't really matter if it is a right or a privilege, does it?
  • AbraAbra Would you kindly Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19870Posts: 2,166Members
    QUOTE(Faskalia @ Jun 5 2008, 01:23 PM) »
    I got the files.


    The hard part is over tounge.gif
    Denmark
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    Abra wins the thread.

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  • PsykePsyke remedy [blu.knight] Join Date: 2003-11-18 Member: 23112Posts: 2,310Members
    You guys should engineer a steam room. I think it could be possible with two levels of magma and water pumped on top... That way the magma below would reheat the magma when it turns to obsidian... Then just make a room with gratings above this contraption... and set it as a meeting room?

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  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Posts: 8,186Forum Moderators, Constellation mod
    QUOTE(Psyke @ Jun 5 2008, 04:21 PM) »
    That way the magma below would reheat the magma when it turns to obsidian...
    Magma can't melt solid squares, regardless of material. Though coal/lignite burns...
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