China Bans Under 18s From Pvp Mmogs

GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Posts: 5,835Members
edited August 2005 in Off-Topic
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China's Ministry of Culture (MoC) has put down a law forbidding people under the age of 18 from playing MMO games that feature Player Killing o.O
The MoC is also putting down legislation that the companies who run these games are to integrate age authentication measures (using their citizen cards so it's not quite just a 'are you over 18? yes/no) into their registration system to help enforce the law.

I guess this could be a discussion article but I'm not really looking for absolutely serious discussion on the issue, more just bringing it to people's attention so they can either say something thoughtful on the whole issue OR just laugh insanely :p

Article here: http://www.gameinsider.com/comments.php?id=837&catid=1

edit: oop! almost forgot! accompanying comic to go with it :3
http://www.gucomics.com/archives/view.php?cdate=20050805
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  • AlienCowAlienCow Join Date: 2003-09-20 Member: 21040Posts: 1,769Members
    Just MMOs? So normal games with killing in is ok?
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  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Posts: 5,835Members
    well it appears killing NPCs is ok really, just not players :p

    While the article does suggest by its wording that it's all multiplayer games with PvP, the interview quotes indicate it's more likely to be games that you can achieve ranks off killing other players and progress like WoW (MMORPG) or Gunz (not sure what the heck gunz really is but it's not an MMORPG :p ).

    Obviously they can only do this on games that run with a registration system so quake 3 for example (which doesn't have any persistant character advancement anyway) would probably be exempt from the ruling :o

    Course this is all just theorising on my part...
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Posts: 3,640Members, Constellation
    That sounds like trouble for Battlefield 2, then... 'Course, the players can always play singleplayer.
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Posts: 8,203Forum Moderators, Constellation mod
    Wonder why... and won't this just have the same effect as the PG ratings etc, meaning parents letting their kids play?
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Posts: 5,835Members
    edited August 2005
    more info: http://www.interfax.cn/showfeature.asp?aid=4211

    I think they've mainly got their sights set on MMOs mainly cf, though once they've tackled them they might move on to smaller fry like BF2, hard to tell really.

    In that article they mention they're also trying to install auto-kick timers into games to stop people playing for harmful lengths of time; it's starting to sound like korea XD


    align edit: the parents don't have a say unless they let their kids register on their citizen cards. A kid can't play them with their own details so they'll either have to scam their parents out of their card number (no idea how easy or difficult it is nor what the laws say about using other people's cards) or get a fake one (much like ID in the uk; people under the age to get into clubs usually have a fake or two to get through when they get IDed :3 ).
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  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Posts: 3,640Members, Constellation
    How silly... It ought to be the parents deciding if their child can play violent games or not. Ugh.
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Posts: 5,835Members
    well... I dunno CF. I'd agree it should be up to parents but think of the environment it would cause in the MMOs they're banned from if they somehow pulled it off :o
    I'm not saying everyone under 18 is a l337 or a pain in the rear (far from it) but it would probably cut down on the number of immature lil runts who run around screaming "OMG I DID THINGS WITH YOUR MOTHER OLOLOL"... well except for the over 18 'kids' who do it. Sadly there's no system in place that can weed them out yet :p
  • RaVeRaVe Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17538Posts: 3,516Members
    edited August 2005
    Rowr. Let's see the countdown on how long before the place I live in is affected by this silly law....
    Hmm....about 42 more years or so to go. By then I'll be happy and retired (hopefully)

    China has a few 'silly' rules here and there. Nothing too special, really.

    EDOT : I don't know if that comic needs fixing....probably not though. Hong Kong is like...a pinhead at that scale. All I know is that we have our own seperate laws from China tounge.gif
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  • pardzhpardzh Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1601Posts: 3,137Members
    QUOTE (CForrester @ Aug 7 2005, 08:59 AM)
    How silly... It ought to be the parents deciding if their child can play violent games or not. Ugh.

    Well... it is Communist China we're talking about here.
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  • MetalcatMetalcat Join Date: 2004-08-11 Member: 30528Posts: 1,321Members
    QUOTE (RaVe @ Aug 7 2005, 09:12 AM)
    Rowr. Let's see the countdown on how long before the place I live in is affected by this silly law....
    Hmm....about 42 more years or so to go. By then I'll be happy and retired (hopefully)

    China has a few 'silly' rules here and there. Nothing too special, really.

    EDOT : I don't know if that comic needs fixing....probably not though. Hong Kong is like...a pinhead at that scale. All I know is that we have our own seperate laws from China tounge.gif

    "we"?
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  • SpacerSpacer Invented dogs Join Date: 2003-05-02 Member: 16008Posts: 1,527Members
    This is terrible, you shouldn't ban MMO's because they don't make people kill people.
    You should ban them because they're plain awful.
  • JimmehJimmeh Join Date: 2003-08-24 Member: 20173Posts: 3,174Members, Constellation
    QUOTE (Spacer @ Aug 7 2005, 05:15 PM)
    You should ban them because they're plain awful.

    Just like your mom last night.
  • The_ThingThe_Thing Join Date: 2003-02-25 Member: 13993Posts: 773Members
    Damn the commies. Maybe the gamers will rise up and overthrow the government.
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  • MetalcatMetalcat Join Date: 2004-08-11 Member: 30528Posts: 1,321Members
    QUOTE (Jimmeh @ Aug 7 2005, 11:19 AM)
    QUOTE (Spacer @ Aug 7 2005, 05:15 PM)
    You should ban them because they're plain awful.

    Just like your mom last night.

    no your mom is, lol we are funny
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  • KerotanKerotan Join Date: 2005-04-17 Member: 48692Posts: 114Members, Constellation
    oh oh oh! Lets see, limit mmorpg to 18 cause theres killing in it, but lets allow films too be produced but not be limited as bad(War of the worlds (PG)), pff they can get stupid somtimes...
    War of the worlds is rate PG and its quite depressing, loads of killing and all of that, but then theres an mmorpg, like WoW, which is nothing wrong with its jus a made up thing but its an 18?
    Now i know War of the worlds is made up too be its filmed, its real people and stuff...

    Anyway iam 15 (almost 16) and i play a game called Kalonline which is korean, due too this stupid law would i not beable too play it cause of the registration? (btw iam in the UK)

    So basicly they put it as if you select China as where your from and your say 13 it will come up saying your not old enough, so you jus select a diffrent country? 0.0
    Or will it be another system ?
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  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Posts: 7,221Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    I'm with CF on this one. This seems rather ridiculous. Though, I've heard figures that of the farmers in China, 65% are under 18, so maybe it'll cut down on that, too!
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  • MetalcatMetalcat Join Date: 2004-08-11 Member: 30528Posts: 1,321Members
    QUOTE (Kerotan @ Aug 7 2005, 11:36 AM)
    oh oh oh! Lets see, limit mmorpg to 18 cause theres killing in it, but lets allow films too be produced but not be limited as bad(War of the worlds (PG)), pff they can get stupid somtimes...
    War of the worlds is rate PG and its quite depressing, loads of killing and all of that, but then theres an mmorpg, like WoW, which is nothing wrong with its jus a made up thing but its an 18?
    Now i know War of the worlds is made up too be its filmed, its real people and stuff...

    Anyway iam 15 (almost 16) and i play a game called Kalonline which is korean, due too this stupid law would i not beable too play it cause of the registration? (btw iam in the UK)

    So basicly they put it as if you select China as where your from and your say 13 it will come up saying your not old enough, so you jus select a diffrent country? 0.0
    Or will it be another system ?

    its because you kill other players, read the artilcle
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  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Posts: 5,835Members
    well for a start it only applies in china and the system I already explained; it uses your 'citizen card' which I assume by what's inferred in the news that all people who live in china have.

    As for the reason, I don't think so much it's just because of the player-killing... if you look carefully at what she says in the interview she seems to hint that it's equally if not more because of the competitive nature they foster; think about it.

    In PvP games the measure of your character is the other players so they end up burning vast amounts of time playing to keep 'in the race' if you like. :3
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