Linux - Black screen at start-up, then exit

rustytotemrustytotem Join Date: 2013-08-30 Member: 187238Members
edited August 2013 in Technical Support
Hi.

When I attempt to start the game, the screen/window is black, it loads for about 10 seconds, and then it suddenly exits.

I'm using linux (linux mint 15).
I've tried starting steam with "LANG=en_US steam".
I've tried starting the game with the launch option "LC_ALL=en_US %command%".
I've tried running the game in windowed mode, and fullscreen-windowed (default), and various resolutions.
I've tried verifying the integrity of the game cache.
I've tried deleting the ~/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/Natural Selection 2/core/shaders/ and ~/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/Natural Selection 2/ns2/shaders/ folders.
I've tried deleting the ~/.local/share/Steam/userdata/NUMBER/4920 folder.
I've tried deleting the ~/.config/Natural Selection 2 folder.
I don't appear to be subscribed to any NS2 mods.

The contents of my ~/.config/Natural Selection 2/log.txt is:
Date: 08/30/13
Time: 18:31:12:
Build 254
Linux Mint 15 Olivia x86_64
Steam initialized
Num displays: 1
OpenGL 4.2.12337 Compatibility Profile Context 13.101 initialized (ATI Technologies Inc. AMD Radeon HD 6700M Series)
GLSL version 4.30
ARB_texture_storage extension present
Sound Device: Default Output Device stereo
Record Device: Default Input Device
Loading config://ConsoleBindings.json
Loading config://FavoriteServers.json
Loading config://HistoryServers.json
Compiling 'shaders/Model_emissive.surface_shader'
Compiling 'shaders/Model.surface_shader'
Compiling 'materials/biodome/biodome_glass.surface_shader'
Compiling 'shaders/Level.surface_shader'
Compiling 'shaders/Model_emissive_alpha.surface_shader'
Compiling 'shaders/water_refract.surface_shader'
Compiling 'shaders/Level_alpha.surface_shader'
Cooked mesh with 4794 faces, 3566 vertices
Compiling 'shaders/Model_alpha.surface_shader'
WARNING: Corrected case of '/home/rustytotem/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/Natural Selection 2/ns2/models/props/biodome/Biodome_bamboo_01.dds'
WARNING: Corrected case of '/home/rustytotem/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/Natural Selection 2/ns2/models/props/biodome/Biodome_bamboo_01_normal.dds'
WARNING: Corrected case of '/home/rustytotem/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/Natural Selection 2/ns2/models/props/biodome/Biodome_bamboo_01_spec.dds'
WARNING: Corrected case of '/home/rustytotem/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/Natural Selection 2/ns2/models/props/biodome/Biodome_bamboo_01_opacity.dds'
WARNING: Corrected case of '/home/rustytotem/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/Natural Selection 2/ns2/models/props/biodome/biodome_waterpipes_01_bubbles_FX.material'
Compiling 'cinematics/vfx_materials/2em_scroll_vtxcolor.surface_shader'
Error: Couldn't open file 'D:/build/assets/materialsrc/biodome/biodome_glass_01.material'
Error: No shader specified for material 'D:/build/assets/materialsrc/biodome/biodome_glass_01.material'
Compiling 'cinematics/vfx_materials/2em_1norm_scroll_distort_vtxcolor.surface_shader'
WARNING: Corrected case of '/home/rustytotem/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/Natural Selection 2/ns2/models/props/biodome/Biodome_bamboo_01_opacity.dds'
WARNING: Corrected case of '/home/rustytotem/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/Natural Selection 2/ns2/models/props/biodome/Biodome_bamboo_01_spec.dds'
WARNING: Corrected case of '/home/rustytotem/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/Natural Selection 2/ns2/models/props/biodome/Biodome_bamboo_01_normal.dds'
WARNING: Corrected case of '/home/rustytotem/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/Natural Selection 2/ns2/models/props/biodome/Biodome_bamboo_01.dds'
Main Menu Initialized at Version: 254
Steam Id: 23209449
Compiling 'shaders/GUIBasic.surface_shader'

The ~/.config/Natural Selection 2/cache folder is empty.

sysinfo output:
System information report, generated by Sysinfo: 30/08/2013 6:47:45 p.m.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/gsysinfo

SYSTEM INFORMATION
Running LinuxMint Linux, the LinuxMint 15 (olivia) release.
GNOME: 3.6.3 (Ubuntu 2013-03-18)
Kernel version: 3.8.0-26-generic (#38-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 17 21:43:33 UTC 2013)
GCC: 4.7 (x86_64-linux-gnu)
Xorg: 1.13.3 (17 April 2013 10:43:13PM) (17 April 2013 10:43:13PM)
Hostname: spongeblob-squareplants
Uptime: 0 days 8 h 59 min

CPU INFORMATION
GenuineIntel, Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2670QM CPU @ 2.20GHz
Number of CPUs: 8
CPU clock currently at 800.000 MHz with 6144 KB cache
Numbering: family(6) model(42) stepping(7)
Bogomips: 4390.21
Flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf eagerfpu pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx lahf_lm ida arat epb xsaveopt pln pts dtherm tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid

MEMORY INFORMATION
Total memory: 3901 MB
Total swap: 4041 MB

STORAGE INFORMATION
SCSI device - scsi0
Vendor: ATA
Model: ST9500325AS
SCSI device - scsi5
Vendor: hp
Model: DVD-RAM UJ8B1

HARDWARE INFORMATION
MOTHERBOARD
Host bridge
Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller (rev 09)
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 1657
PCI bridge(s)
Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200/2nd Generation Core Processor Family PCI Express Root Port (rev 09) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev b5) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 2 (rev b5) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 3 (rev b5) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 4 (rev b5) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200/2nd Generation Core Processor Family PCI Express Root Port (rev 09) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev b5) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 2 (rev b5) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 3 (rev b5) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 4 (rev b5) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
ISA bridge
Intel Corporation HM65 Express Chipset Family LPC Controller (rev 05)
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 1657

GRAPHIC CARD
VGA controller
Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Whistler [Radeon HD 6730M/6770M/7690M XT] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 185e

SOUND CARD
Multimedia controller
Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05)
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 1657

NETWORK
Network controller
Atheros Communications Inc. AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 1785
Ethernet controller
Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 06)
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 1657

I'm using the fglrx driver (13.6 beta I believe).

Just before the black screen game exits, the regular mouse cursor changes to the orange Natural Selection 2 cursor.
Edit: Also, the game gets to about 200MB in memory before it exits.
Edit-2: When I attempt to launch NS2 (using LANG=en_US steam), the terminal output is:
ExecSteamURL: "steam://rungameid/4920"
Game update: AppID 4920 "Natural Selection 2", ProcID 2981, IP 0.0.0.0:0

(steam:2696): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2696): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2696): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2696): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2696): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2696): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2696): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2696): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2696): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2696): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2696): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2696): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2696): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2696): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2696): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2696): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2696): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2696): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2696): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(process:2982): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
Using the fallback 'C' locale.
Setting breakpad minidump AppID = 4920
Steam_SetMinidumpSteamID: Caching Steam ID: 76561197983475177 [API loaded no]
warning: The VAD has been replaced by a hack pending a complete rewrite
Segmentation fault
Game removed: AppID 4920 "Natural Selection 2", ProcID 2982
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  • BadevilBadevil Join Date: 2009-07-04 Member: 68028Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Hi Rustytotem,

    most of the times it helps if you start Steam through the Terminal and than start NS2. In this case every output will be shown in this Terminal and so you can see why the game is not loading I would guess because of missing libs :-).
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  • MrOptionMrOption Join Date: 2013-09-01 Member: 187539Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Same exact symptoms here. :(

    Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit with the latest FGLRX.

    When running steam from the terminal, I just get:
    Setting breakpad minidump AppID = 4920
Steam_SetMinidumpSteamID:  Caching Steam ID:  76561197962637473 [API loaded no]
warning: The VAD has been replaced by a hack pending a complete rewrite
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
Game removed: AppID 4920 "Natural Selection 2", ProcID 5834

    Nothing at all indicating the cause of the segfault.

    Sysinfo:
    System information report, generated by Sysinfo: 9/1/2013 8:28:30 AM
    http://sourceforge.net/projects/gsysinfo

    SYSTEM INFORMATION
    Running Ubuntu Linux, the Ubuntu 12.04 (precise) release.
    GNOME: unknown (unknown)
    Kernel version: 3.2.0-52-generic (#78-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 26 16:21:44 UTC 2013)
    GCC: 4.6 (x86_64-linux-gnu)
    Xorg: 1.11.3 (11 April 2013 01:05:39PM)
    Hostname: Quantum
    Uptime: 0 days 0 h 16 min

    CPU INFORMATION
    GenuineIntel, Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 975 @ 3.33GHz
    Number of CPUs: 8
    CPU clock currently at 1596.000 MHz with 8192 KB cache
    Numbering: family(6) model(26) stepping(5)
    Bogomips: 6661.93
    Flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt lahf_lm ida dtherm tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid

    MEMORY INFORMATION
    Total memory: 5968 MB
    Total swap: 6143 MB

    STORAGE INFORMATION
    SCSI device - scsi0
    Vendor: ATA
    Model: INTEL SSDSA2M160
    SCSI device - scsi2
    Vendor: ATA
    Model: WDC WD5000AAKS-0
    SCSI device - scsi1
    Vendor: Generic
    Model: STORAGE DEVICE
    SCSI device - scsi1
    Vendor: Generic
    Model: STORAGE DEVICE

    HARDWARE INFORMATION
    MOTHERBOARD
    Host bridge
    Intel Corporation Xeon 5500/Core i7 Integrated Memory Controller Channel 2 Thermal Control Registers (rev 05)
    Subsystem: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd Device 5000
    PCI bridge(s)
    Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev 13) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
    Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub PCI Express Root Port 2 (rev 13) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
    Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub PCI Express Root Port 3 (rev 13) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
    Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) PCI Express Root Port 1 (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
    Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
    Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) PCI Express Root Port 4 (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
    Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) PCI Express Root Port 5 (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
    Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) PCI Express Root Port 6 (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
    Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 90) (prog-if 01 [Subtractive decode])
    ISA bridge
    Intel Corporation 82801JIR (ICH10R) LPC Interface Controller
    Subsystem: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd GA-EP45-DS5 Motherboard
    IDE interface
    JMicron Technology Corp. JMB363 SATA/IDE Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 85 [Master SecO PriO])
    Subsystem: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd Motherboard

    GRAPHIC CARD
    VGA controller
    Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Cypress XT [Radeon HD 5870] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
    Subsystem: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Radeon HD 5870 Eyefinity⁶ Edition

    SOUND CARD
    Multimedia controller
    Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Cypress HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5800 Series]
    Subsystem: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Cypress HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5800 Series]

    NETWORK
    Ethernet controller
    Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 03)
    Subsystem: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd Motherboard
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  • ColdFXsColdFXs Join Date: 2013-09-01 Member: 187541Members
    Same using 13.6, working with 13.8 beta 2.
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  • MrOptionMrOption Join Date: 2013-09-01 Member: 187539Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited September 2013
    I enabled core dumping and forced the core file into existence.
    (gdb) bt
#0  0xe008f6d4 in ?? () from /usr/lib32/fglrx/dri/fglrx_dri.so
#1  0x0c0f3540 in ?? ()
#2  0xe0079894 in ?? () from /usr/lib32/fglrx/dri/fglrx_dri.so
Backtrace stopped: previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?)

    I'm guessing the developer of the Linux port was using nvidia primarily?

    So close and yet so far! :)

    I'm ready to assist with any data gathering, troubleshooting, or experimentation. Let's get this working.
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  • ConfusedConfused Wait. What? Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12904Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester
    Okay,

    Is there any debug data that looks helpful in ~/.config/Natural Selection 2/log.txt @rustytotems looks clean but in case the rest of you have a slightly different problem it wont hurt to ask:)

    Can any one else confirm that version fglrx 13.8 beta 2 works?
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  • MrOptionMrOption Join Date: 2013-09-01 Member: 187539Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited September 2013
    Hmm. I'm already on the latest "fglrx-experimental-13" in the repositories. Output in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
    [     6.934] (II) LoadModule: "fglrx"
[     6.934] (II) Loading /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xorg/extra-modules/extra-modules.dpkg-tmp/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so
[     7.003] (II) Module fglrx: vendor="FireGL - AMD Technologies Inc."
[     7.003]    compiled for 1.4.99.906, module version = 13.10.10
[     7.003]    Module class: X.Org Video Driver

    And the info on the package itself:
    apt-cache showpkg fglrx-experimental-13
    Package: fglrx-experimental-13
    Versions:
    2:13.101-0ubuntu0.0.2 (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-updates_restricted_binary-amd64_Packages) (/var/lib/dpkg/status)
    Description Language:
    File: /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-updates_restricted_binary-amd64_Packages
    MD5: f88f3940903e83fbe361f936e7a1c96b
    Description Language: en
    File: /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-updates_restricted_i18n_Translation-en
    MD5: f88f3940903e83fbe361f936e7a1c96b


    Reverse Depends:
    fglrx-experimental-13:i386,fglrx-experimental-13
    fglrx-experimental-13-dev,fglrx-experimental-13
    fglrx-amdcccle-experimental-13,fglrx-experimental-13
    Dependencies:
    2:13.101-0ubuntu0.0.2 - libc6 (2 2.3.3) libfontconfig1 (2 2.8.0) libfreetype6 (2 2.2.1) libgcc1 (2 1:4.1.1) libice6 (2 1:1.0.0) libqtcore4 (2 4:4.5.3) libsm6 (0 (null)) libstdc++6 (2 4.1.1) libx11-6 (0 (null)) libxcursor1 (4 1.1.2) libxext6 (0 (null)) libxfixes3 (0 (null)) libxinerama1 (0 (null)) libxrandr2 (0 (null)) libxrender1 (0 (null)) libxxf86vm1 (0 (null)) lib32gcc1 (0 (null)) libc6-i386 (0 (null)) dkms (0 (null)) make (0 (null)) linux-libc-dev (0 (null)) xorg-video-abi-11 (16 (null)) xorg-video-abi-12 (16 (null)) xorg-video-abi-13 (16 (null)) xorg-video-abi-14 (0 (null)) xserver-xorg-core (16 (null)) xserver-xorg-core-lts-quantal (16 (null)) xserver-xorg-core-lts-raring (0 (null)) fglrx-amdcccle-experimental-13 (0 (null)) fglrx-driver (0 (null)) fglrx-driver:i386 (0 (null)) fglrx-driver (0 (null)) fglrx-driver:i386 (0 (null)) fglrx-experimental-13:i386 (0 (null))
    Provides:
    2:13.101-0ubuntu0.0.2 - xorg-driver-video fglrx-driver
    Reverse Provides:

    In other words, this is the "up to date" FGLRX that everyone using Ubuntu's current LTS will be using. By the way - Steam itself nags you rather aggressively to do this update.

    It seems like 13.8 would be a downgrade? If so, do you have a suggested driver install method?

    If it's not PPA or DEB based, I'm going to cook a test system to try it on, rather than risk letting AMD's installer make a massive mess of my regular system (again).
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  • ConfusedConfused Wait. What? Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12904Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester
    @MrOption, if steam is pushing that update there is no reason for us to pull it. At least not until I know that it fixes things.

    Do you get anything in the ns2 log that looks handy? (~/.config/Natural Selection 2/log.txt)

    Just trying to get as much data as I can about the crash.








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  • MrOptionMrOption Join Date: 2013-09-01 Member: 187539Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Steam doesn't do the update itself, but it does give you warnings if you are not on the newest drivers available, and opens the control panel in Ubuntu used for installing the latest. Without knowing how Steam has implemented this warning, I can't know for sure, but I suspect that the "latest" fglrx could be different for different Ubuntu versions.

    That said, what it does on the 12.04 LTS release should probably be of particular concern.

    Here's the log:
    Date: 09/03/13
    Time: 12:15:30:
    Build 254
    Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS x86_64
    Steam initialized
    Num displays: 1
    OpenGL 4.2.12337 Compatibility Profile Context 8.96.7 initialized (ATI Technologies Inc. ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series)
    GLSL version 4.30
    ARB_texture_storage extension present
    Sound Device: Default Output Device stereo
    Record Device: Default Input Device
    Loading config://ConsoleBindings.json
    Loading config://FavoriteServers.json
    Loading config://HistoryServers.json
    Compiling 'shaders/Model_emissive.surface_shader'
    Compiling 'shaders/Model.surface_shader'
    Compiling 'materials/biodome/biodome_glass.surface_shader'
    Compiling 'shaders/Level.surface_shader'
    Compiling 'shaders/Model_emissive_alpha.surface_shader'
    Compiling 'shaders/water_refract.surface_shader'
    Compiling 'shaders/Level_alpha.surface_shader'
    Cooked mesh with 4794 faces, 3566 vertices
    Compiling 'shaders/Model_alpha.surface_shader'
    WARNING: Corrected case of '/home/obsidian/large/SteamLibrary/SteamApps/common/Natural Selection 2/ns2/models/props/biodome/Biodome_bamboo_01.dds'
    WARNING: Corrected case of '/home/obsidian/large/SteamLibrary/SteamApps/common/Natural Selection 2/ns2/models/props/biodome/Biodome_bamboo_01_normal.dds'
    WARNING: Corrected case of '/home/obsidian/large/SteamLibrary/SteamApps/common/Natural Selection 2/ns2/models/props/biodome/Biodome_bamboo_01_spec.dds'
    WARNING: Corrected case of '/home/obsidian/large/SteamLibrary/SteamApps/common/Natural Selection 2/ns2/models/props/biodome/Biodome_bamboo_01_opacity.dds'
    WARNING: Corrected case of '/home/obsidian/large/SteamLibrary/SteamApps/common/Natural Selection 2/ns2/models/props/biodome/biodome_waterpipes_01_bubbles_FX.material'
    Compiling 'cinematics/vfx_materials/2em_scroll_vtxcolor.surface_shader'
    Error: Couldn't open file 'D:/build/assets/materialsrc/biodome/biodome_glass_01.material'
    Error: No shader specified for material 'D:/build/assets/materialsrc/biodome/biodome_glass_01.material'
    Compiling 'cinematics/vfx_materials/2em_1norm_scroll_distort_vtxcolor.surface_shader'
    WARNING: Corrected case of '/home/obsidian/large/SteamLibrary/SteamApps/common/Natural Selection 2/ns2/models/props/biodome/Biodome_bamboo_01_opacity.dds'
    WARNING: Corrected case of '/home/obsidian/large/SteamLibrary/SteamApps/common/Natural Selection 2/ns2/models/props/biodome/Biodome_bamboo_01_spec.dds'
    WARNING: Corrected case of '/home/obsidian/large/SteamLibrary/SteamApps/common/Natural Selection 2/ns2/models/props/biodome/Biodome_bamboo_01_normal.dds'
    WARNING: Corrected case of '/home/obsidian/large/SteamLibrary/SteamApps/common/Natural Selection 2/ns2/models/props/biodome/Biodome_bamboo_01.dds'
    Main Menu Initialized at Version: 254
    Steam Id: 2371745
    Compiling 'shaders/GUIBasic.surface_shader'
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  • MrOptionMrOption Join Date: 2013-09-01 Member: 187539Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    OK, this is interesting. While eating my lunch had a free minute - decided to try downgrading to 12.10 - which is, "sudo apt-get install fglrx-experimental-12" followed by a reboot.

    Now the game launches. But that "upgrade your version" nag happens even as you launch the game. In fact, the steam dialog appearing messes up the game itself - as if there's some issue with the z-ordering of the steam "upgrade from fglrx-12 to fglrx-13" dialog, the game, and the rest of the desktop. When trying to agree to the "one time optimization" I ended up agreeing to the driver upgrade instead, which launched that Ubuntu "additional drivers" panel. I closed both and switched back.

    The're s a yellow, 50%-ish alpha box on the pointer. So far, other than that, it's running. Unfortunately it's running at FPS<1. Still looking into why.
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  • ConfusedConfused Wait. What? Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12904Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester
    Good to know.

    Thanks for trying it out.
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  • MrOptionMrOption Join Date: 2013-09-01 Member: 187539Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Running at my native resolution (1920x1200) I can finally get a tiny fraction of my normal framerate by turning all settings down. Haven't narrowed to any particular one that's the issue yet. Even with everything cranked down, there's still also a noticeable lag between mouse input and rendering - 100-400ms? Enough to make the game unplayable.

    You can see the full details of my system in the sysinfo above, but it's a Radeon HD 5870 and a quad i7 running 3.3Ghz; WinXP/Win7 is lagless and liquid smooth with all settings maxed.
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  • MrOptionMrOption Join Date: 2013-09-01 Member: 187539Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Ah - should have mentioned from the beginning - the framerate is fine on the title screen. I only observe the slowdown when in-game.
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  • MrOptionMrOption Join Date: 2013-09-01 Member: 187539Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Is there any news related to this? Is there a defect being tracked somewhere - any hope of a fix?
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  • ConfusedConfused Wait. What? Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12904Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester
    Max, knows about it but he has not yet posted a fix.

    So, in my brief testing of things, before my wife made me reinstall windows on the living room machine, I saw some very odd looking behavior on fglrx.

    Hopefully, good thing will happen, soon(tm).

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  • MrOptionMrOption Join Date: 2013-09-01 Member: 187539Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Thanks, Confused. It's kind of heartbreaking that it doesn't work - I'm glad fglrx is on the radar. I hope it can be sorted out; if there's anything I can do to help, let me know.
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  • bedheadbedhead Join Date: 2013-10-29 Member: 188867Members
    Sorry to necro an old thread, but I was wondering if anybody got natural selection 2 to work on build 258 using fglrx. Using the stable catalyst version results in a black screen then exits like everybody else for me. When I updated it to the newest version from AMD website - 13.11 Beta (Oct. 25), all I get is a black screen that doesn't exit. I waited for 30 minutes and nothing happened...
    I'm using AMD 7950 and running Xubuntu 13.10. I have never even seen the start menu for Natural Selection 2 under Linux.
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  • MrOptionMrOption Join Date: 2013-09-01 Member: 187539Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    I hope you can be forgiven. :) There are a lot of ATI users out there. :(

    No love for me with any build I've yet tried, including that one.
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  • ConfusedConfused Wait. What? Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12904Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester
    Best I can tell you is that UWE know about it. Hopefully it should get fixed soon.
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  • ZaggyZaggy NullPointerException The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24214Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos, Subnautica Playtester
    edited November 2013
    13.4 (stable): segfaults, strace here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6394241/
    13.11 (beta): loads but get stuck, chugging 100% cpu, terminal output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6394310/
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  • pete910pete910 Join Date: 2013-09-04 Member: 187798Members
    Zaggy wrote: »
    13.4 (stable): segfaults, strace here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6394241/
    13.11 (beta): loads but get stuck, chugging 100% cpu, terminal output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6394310/

    Getting the exact same thing, been off it for a bit, just re-downloaded and what not.

    Gone to play it and starts then black screen, have to alt tab out to kill it. even left it half hour or so.

    Running an 290x on beta 6, thought it might have been the card as the 290 is on its first driver release. Popped my old and trusted 5870 and it does the same !

    Log output is the same as above!

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  • TurbineTurbine Join Date: 2012-09-13 Member: 159160Members
    Same thing, also on an AMD.
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  • impiaaaimpiaaa Join Date: 2014-01-29 Member: 193627Members
    I'm having the same problem. Just decided to install, and it freezes with a black screen trying to compile the first two shaders. AMD graphics, Xubuntu 13.10 64-bit.
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  • GhoulofGSG9GhoulofGSG9 Join Date: 2013-03-31 Member: 184566Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver, Reinforced - Supporter, WC 2013 - Supporter, Pistachionauts
    Wait for the 263 beta ;) :

    Changes confirmed by uwe devs at twitter:
    There are some Linux support fixes including out of memory on kernel 3.12, support for Mesa and a workaround for AMD drivers
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  • DazDaz Croatia Join Date: 2014-03-05 Member: 194537Members
    edited March 2014
    Hello guys I am having similar problems with this game, latest build 263.

    I will try to describe what I tried tgo do so far and results. First lets mention my system specs: AMD A10-5800 APU processor with integrated Radeon HD 7660 and 8 GB of RAM and running on Linux Mint 16.

    First I tried to launch the game with default xserver-xorg-video-ati but it failed to render. Then I installed fglrx ver2.13.101 which is proposed by the system on the list of available stable drivers. This one did run the game however framerate was unacceptable even on the lowest setting (below 10 fps when started tutorial) but main screen looked not so bad (it was around 20-25 fps).

    Then I tried installing latest stable fglrx 13.12 driver from amd offical page however DKMS part of installation failed and even the Cinnamon crashed after restart. After that I tried installing that driver from pre-compiled list of drivers for ubuntu as advised here:

    http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?91885-AMD-Catalyst-13-12-GPU-Driver-For-Linux-Released&p=382324#post382324

    I tried installing both 13.125 and 13.350 versions of the driver and while both work well with Cinnamon both get me stuck at black screen after running NS2 from steam.

    After that I reverted to fglrx 13.101 however now even this one can't get me in-game. The screen just blinks for a second and that's it.

    Errorlog says this:
    GetInstanceCount currently unimplemented
    Build 263
    Linux Mint 16 Petra x86_64
    Error: Couldn't locate Awesomium package
    Setting breakpad minidump AppID = 4920
    Steam_SetMinidumpSteamID: Caching Steam ID: 76561198125462910 [API loaded no]
    Steam initialized
    Num displays: 1
    OpenGL 3.1.12337 Compatibility Profile/Debug Context 13.101 initialized (ATI Technologies Inc. AMD Radeon HD 7660D)
    GLSL version 4.30
    ARB_texture_storage extension present
    ARB_get_program_binary extension present
    Disabling ARB_texture_storage extension to work around AMD drivers
    Error: Couldn't load 'renderer/Drawer.shader' (file not found)
    Sound Device: default stereo
    Record Device: default
    Error: Local mod 'tutorial' doesn't exist
    warning: The VAD has been replaced by a hack pending a complete rewrite
    Error: Couldn't load 'game_setup.xml'
    Error: Attempting to set watchdog callback on NULL Lua state
    Segmentation fault

    I am really starting to give up on this game... Could someone please help me with getting it running or is it a lost cause?

    Edit: I can get in the game again with fglrx 13.101 driver (it must have been something temporary with Steam) or the fact that I removed shaders from cache affected it. However low framerate still remains a problem and makes this game unplayable for me.

    Also tried running the games under xfce de, however no improvement in framerate occurs.

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  • IronHorseIronHorse Developer, QA Manager, Technical Support & contributor Join Date: 2010-05-08 Member: 71669Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester, Subnautica PT Lead, Pistachionauts
    An APU is going to yield lower frame rates than an officially supported and required dedicated graphics card. This goes for almost any modern game sold on steam, as well (especially FPS)
    Also, Linux will be using open gl renderer which as shown in the options is in beta and thus will still have issues, especially in regards to performance.
    I really wish the steam store page clarified this for Linux users..
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  • DazDaz Croatia Join Date: 2014-03-05 Member: 194537Members
    edited March 2014
    I understand that APUs peformance is less its GPU counterpart, however under Windows I played games way more demanding than this one on this APU - e.g. Planetside 2 on mid to high end graphics fared pretty good and was playable.. However out of my personal beliefs I'm never going back to Windows. :P And if by any chance I went back to Wins I would probably be playing some other FPS tbh.

    I understand also that AMD has some really shitty drivers for linux, and as you mentioned open gl is in beta. And finally yes it would be good if steam made it clear that this game is playable only if you have Intel graphics (since according to other threads no-one with amd graphics managed to play this game on linux). Nonetheless this game seems to be fun, and I really hope that either devs or amd guys find a fix for this problem so I won't call for a refund and hope they will fix it eventually.

    p.s. could someone please send me fglrx 13.8 beta 2? I can't find a genuine one on the web. I did find a file named like that but it contained another driver actually and that one crashed cinnamon.

    youtube.com/watch?v=mC57rpO8ChA

    ;)
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  • IronHorseIronHorse Developer, QA Manager, Technical Support & contributor Join Date: 2010-05-08 Member: 71669Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester, Subnautica PT Lead, Pistachionauts
    That was a reasonable reply and I agree with your calls. :)
    Just to warn you though, not much engine work is being currently done in regards to OpenGL, so while it may happen at some point, I would not personally hold my breath.
    But work is still definitely being done for Linux, so sit tight for improvements in that area.
    Also, fyi, the refund would have to come through steam if you went that route.
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  • ConfusedConfused Wait. What? Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12904Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester
    edited March 2014
    Daz,

    So the error you are getting is not a typical video card error it is a permissions type issue. Please check the permissions on the install folder and make sure that teh noted files exist( ~/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/Natural Selection 2/ns2/ game_setup.xml )


    I might also check the tutorial folder since it looks like you are running that as well. ~/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/Natural Selection 2/tutorial

    maybe verify local content via steam as well.


    Also worth noting that last time i tested cinnamon it gave a 75% frame rate loss compared to teh likes of mate or gnome2d

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  • DazDaz Croatia Join Date: 2014-03-05 Member: 194537Members
    edited March 2014
    Thanks for replying Confused however the errors you refer to occured only after switching from one fglrx driver to another (newer version) and then back to original one. And when I deleted created shaders from cache that particular problem went away.

    As for DE I tried running it from xfce (I believe that DE is the least consuming for the system) and absolutely no improvement happened. So I think that DE is not the main issue in my case.
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  • ConfusedConfused Wait. What? Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12904Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester
    Good to here, Can you post a newer log then. Are you getting shader compilation issues?

    Also good to know that cinnamon is just bad for me and not for the general public as well.
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